Some very interesting clips from the movie "Blood Money" from Carol Everett, a former abortion clinic operator. Watch it, and ask yourself if this woman seems like she's making any of this up:
I think I just puked inside a little from watching that. Someone send that to Obama and Pelosi and the rest of them. And Flower, maybe you can be the progressive rationalist nut who delivers it to them.
I thought this was very sad. I did believe this woman. I do acknowledge that she was running a private for profit business and I acknowledge that I do not know if some, any or all Planned Parenthood clinics are run this way. The cover up of the injuries that happened to the women having the abortions really bothered me too. I thought those were the kind of things that happened frequently in the past when abortion was illegal. I dont think that government money should be supporting abortions and putting women at risk for such mental anguish and physical harm. It really makes me want to pray for the unborn and be more supportive of organizations that support crisis pregnancies and adoption so that women are aware of the support that is available.
Sorry to not reply for so long, it was unavoidable unfortunately.
Actually, when he wrote in your blog, "Watch it, and ask yourself if this woman seems like she's making any of this up" I thought that you agreed that her story seemed suspicious.
I totally believe that all of her story is possibly and I was believe that I could be wrong and that she is telling the truth, but I don't see her as credible.
Whether you agree with them or not (and I know you don't), most pro-choice people believe that they are on the right side of the argument, that they are doing things in the best interest of the women. The woman in the video, if her story is to believe, doesn't fit this mold, she was willing to put the health, even life, of people in jeopardy for pure greed. Both sides of the pro-life/pro-choice divide should agree that were actions were awful, that she is not to be trusted. Even if she flipped on the abortion debate, that doesn't mean that she is now an honest person. True a person can have a complete change of heart and become a good person, but I am not buying it with her. I don't think anyone should believe her story just because what she is saying is a boost to your side of the argument. Perhaps you know more of her story than I.
I had a hard time believing that 7 random doctor in a hospital were willing to lie on medical records, putting their licenses at risk, for her.
I had a hard time believing that during an emergency 911 call, the operator would have been willing to take the time to take detailed instructions on the preferred door to us.
I had a hard time believing her story about families being too ashamed to request autopsies due to shame. If a death is in any way suspicious, the family wouldn't have a choice whether an autopsy occurred or not.
Yes, any reasonable person could disagree with me and I could be wrong. But, I am not a "nut". The poster who said so wasn't being nice. There are people of good intentions on both sides of the debate and there are people of ill will on both sides too. Plus, you don't know if I am pro-choice or not, you just know that I didn't find one ladies testimony believable.
When I watch the video I see a woman who is PAINED by what she participated in, and given my background in the pro-life movement, I've heard many stories just like the ones she relays.
I think it is also interesting that Planned Parenthood and others never argue the details of the stories people like this woman and Abby Johnson of Unplanned fame bring forward.
Planned Parenthood doesn't refute ONE WORD of Abby's from her book - I think that is odd. NARAL doesn't refute one word of Carol Everett's story, and the pro-choice camp has tons of lawyers and researchers - if one thing brought up by people like this were untrue, it seems like we'd have heard about it.
I went to the website you provided and it seems like mostly semantics to me - that in several places she talks about owning abortion clinics, and in other places she talks about managing them.
The only thing of real substance that I saw in there was that at one point she said she didn't know if they were doing fake abortions or not because she didn't have a medical background, and in the clip I posted she talked very dramatically about how they did that and she knew it. It makes perfect sense to me how someone just leaving the abortion industry would lie to cover her own rear end, and has, over time, been able to gradually admit her full culpability.
I'd say about 98% of what she talks about in the clips is left un-attacked by anyone in the abortion industry - but their goal is surely to plant a seed of doubt by getting worked up over "managed" and "owned" and how many clinics she "managed" and "owned" when. I see thia woman's website as more of an ad hominem attack than anything else.
Did you find anything discrediting Abby Johnson by any chance?
Yes, it does seem like she is making a great deal of it up.
ReplyDeleteWhat gives you that impression?
ReplyDeleteI believe every bit of it.
ReplyDeleteI think I just puked inside a little from watching that. Someone send that to Obama and Pelosi and the rest of them. And Flower, maybe you can be the progressive rationalist nut who delivers it to them.
ReplyDeleteI thought this was very sad. I did believe this woman. I do acknowledge that she was running a private for profit business and I acknowledge that I do not know if some, any or all Planned Parenthood clinics are run this way. The cover up of the injuries that happened to the women having the abortions really bothered me too. I thought those were the kind of things that happened frequently in the past when abortion was illegal. I dont think that government money should be supporting abortions and putting women at risk for such mental anguish and physical harm. It really makes me want to pray for the unborn and be more supportive of organizations that support crisis pregnancies and adoption so that women are aware of the support that is available.
ReplyDeleteFather Hollowell,
ReplyDeleteSorry to not reply for so long, it was unavoidable unfortunately.
Actually, when he wrote in your blog, "Watch it, and ask yourself if this woman seems like she's making any of this up" I thought that you agreed that her story seemed suspicious.
I totally believe that all of her story is possibly and I was believe that I could be wrong and that she is telling the truth, but I don't see her as credible.
Whether you agree with them or not (and I know you don't), most pro-choice people believe that they are on the right side of the argument, that they are doing things in the best interest of the women. The woman in the video, if her story is to believe, doesn't fit this mold, she was willing to put the health, even life, of people in jeopardy for pure greed. Both sides of the pro-life/pro-choice divide should agree that were actions were awful, that she is not to be trusted. Even if she flipped on the abortion debate, that doesn't mean that she is now an honest person. True a person can have a complete change of heart and become a good person, but I am not buying it with her. I don't think anyone should believe her story just because what she is saying is a boost to your side of the argument. Perhaps you know more of her story than I.
I had a hard time believing that 7 random doctor in a hospital were willing to lie on medical records, putting their licenses at risk, for her.
I had a hard time believing that during an emergency 911 call, the operator would have been willing to take the time to take detailed instructions on the preferred door to us.
I had a hard time believing her story about families being too ashamed to request autopsies due to shame. If a death is in any way suspicious, the family wouldn't have a choice whether an autopsy occurred or not.
Yes, any reasonable person could disagree with me and I could be wrong. But, I am not a "nut". The poster who said so wasn't being nice. There are people of good intentions on both sides of the debate and there are people of ill will on both sides too. Plus, you don't know if I am pro-choice or not, you just know that I didn't find one ladies testimony believable.
When I watch the video I see a woman who is PAINED by what she participated in, and given my background in the pro-life movement, I've heard many stories just like the ones she relays.
ReplyDeleteI think it is also interesting that Planned Parenthood and others never argue the details of the stories people like this woman and Abby Johnson of Unplanned fame bring forward.
Planned Parenthood doesn't refute ONE WORD of Abby's from her book - I think that is odd. NARAL doesn't refute one word of Carol Everett's story, and the pro-choice camp has tons of lawyers and researchers - if one thing brought up by people like this were untrue, it seems like we'd have heard about it.
Hey Father Hollowell,
ReplyDeleteIt would seem as though I am not the only one to question her story. Her story in fact has been proven to have a few inconsistencies.
http://eileen.250x.com/Main/7_R_Eile/Everett.html
I went to the website you provided and it seems like mostly semantics to me - that in several places she talks about owning abortion clinics, and in other places she talks about managing them.
ReplyDeleteThe only thing of real substance that I saw in there was that at one point she said she didn't know if they were doing fake abortions or not because she didn't have a medical background, and in the clip I posted she talked very dramatically about how they did that and she knew it. It makes perfect sense to me how someone just leaving the abortion industry would lie to cover her own rear end, and has, over time, been able to gradually admit her full culpability.
I'd say about 98% of what she talks about in the clips is left un-attacked by anyone in the abortion industry - but their goal is surely to plant a seed of doubt by getting worked up over "managed" and "owned" and how many clinics she "managed" and "owned" when. I see thia woman's website as more of an ad hominem attack than anything else.
Did you find anything discrediting Abby Johnson by any chance?