I'm Catholic and proud to say I love Planned Parenthood.
They have been wonderful in helping women (especially rape victims) , helping with population control , and the only hope to help reduce the astronomical rate of orphaned children and children in the streets. You certainly aren't doing it John
There are already already 321 million in the USA and counting. We certainly don't have a shortage of "be fruitful and multiply ".
Planned parenthood will help reduce the rate of orphaned children and street children . The number of homeless children reached record highs in 2011,2012,and 2013 at about three times their number in 1983. There are an estimated two million youth in the streets...many who are forced out of their homes by their parent or parents. Imagine how much higher the numbers would be if Planned Parenthood didn't exist. Now there's something you can focus on John, help those street children rather than bashing gays and Planned Parenthood. Thank goodness our Church has priests who really do help our country rather than promote hatred. But there's always hope for you, I'll pray you see the Light instead of darkness because Lord knows you've been working with darkness for 6 years now !
Thank you for explaining the faulty but attractive logic behind the PP position - instead of caring for the poor (who will always be with us according to Jesus) we just hand out condoms (which are a false security blanket anyway) and try to prevent people from not breeding.
The Church's stance (and thus the reason PP's founder considered her main enemy to be the Catholic Church (odd that you purport to be a fan of both as they are on opposite extremes)) is one that both actually cares for the needs of the poor, and actually is out teaching the only thing that ACTUALLY reduces unwanted pregnancies - abstinence. Handing out birth control pills and condoms, with the message that it protects a couple from pregnancy, when in actuality birth control fails at an alarming rate, only serves to drive up the number of unwanted pregnancies. How do you explain the fact that 48% of women getting abortions reported being on the pill when they conceived? Planned Parenthood isn't just based on evil principles, it is based on ineffective principles.
Imagine if abortion and contraception was illegal throughout the world. This country would be packed like sardines with people. There wouldn't be any jobs for a LOT, food would be scarce, a LOT would be homeless, and there would be soooo much suffering! Like lots more than we have now. We would literally ruin ourselves.
"The country would be packed like sardines with people" .... Have you ever been to Kansas, Wyoming, Texas, Indiana, Nebraska, Alaska, South or North Dakota? The entire world's population would fit in Texas living at the same population density of New York City
One decently sized river (Ohio, Mississippi) produces enough water for every human being to live off of.
Visit https://overpopulationisamyth.com/ for more info
Haha, apparently you didn't read my comment very well. I said IF every country banned abortion and contraception, the world would be chuck FULL of people. After all, people enjoy procreating every day, whether they are married or not, and if those two things were outlawed, we'd see a steady population growth until the Earth is elbow to elbow with humans! Ever been to China? Why do you suppose there is a one(maybe two) child limit law? Because that country is overflowing with people!. Yes, I have been to some of those other states. I don't buy the fact that 7 BILLION people could fit in Texas either. Maybe if you pack em in like sardines.....
"Planned parenthood will help reduce the rate of orphaned children and street children . The number of homeless children reached record highs in 2011,2012,and 2013 at about three times their number in 1983. There are an estimated two million youth in the streets...many who are forced out of their homes by their parent or parents. Imagine how much higher the numbers would be if Planned Parenthood didn't exist."
Just in case you had any doubt that PP apologists are eugenicist duds, creeps, and villains who want to kill off the riff-raff so their gated community isn't stunk up by beggars.
"Anonymous," are you some kind of agent provacateur contra liberalism or something?
I haven't been to China, but I've heard reports of vast livable swaths of countryside that aren't utilized for living because the government forces people into cities and/or people choose to live in them. Overcrowding, in certain areas, is a problem, as it is in the US, but overcrowding is the issue, not that we don't have enough room in the world. www.overpopulationisamyth.org - check it out
Fair enough that you haven't been to China but have second hand knowledge of extra space over there. Honestly, I'm not saying that this planet is over populated at the present time. But here is my question to you: Would it be a fair statement to say that if abortion and contraception were illegal world wide(which means nobody would have access to it whatsoever), that eventually; maybe not 10 years from now, nor 100 years, maybe not even in 500 hundred years, but eventually, this world would be chuck full of human beings that the world would be so crowded that we'd have to look into seeing how to live life on the moon to put the overflow population?
You side-stepped my question which had an answer of either yes or no. First of all, I agree with you that the entire planet isn't overpopulated. However, do you think it's a possibility that it COULD BE at the present moment if abortion and contraception had been illegal for the past 500 years? The point I'm trying to make is something like this: A newly constructed Olympic sized pool is empty. You begin to fill it with water from a hose the size of a straw at low pressure and just leave it and never turn it off. For a long time there won't be much water in that pool. But over time, the pool will eventually fill up and then overflow and there will be water everywhere, thus making a huge mess. I guarantee you that's what would happen to our planet. After all, people love to fornicate. In fact, I'll bet everything I have that people are fornicating right now as I type this and as you read this! So what do you suppose would happen if we took away birth control and abortion?
Malthus reached his delusional and unscientific conclusion that we were running out of room precisely because he assumed we wouldn't get any better at figuring out ways to adapt and become more resourceful thus allowing many more people to live "in the pool" as you say. Are you going to tell me that we're able to figure out how to live on the moon and Mars but in 500 years we'll still be operating at the same level of food efficiency?
At another site, someone said "the jury was still out" as to whether it was a real video or a hoax. That's fine, but with this person, it is not clear that he is opposed in principle to fetal organ trafficking.
To wit: if one is ambivalent or just ducky with fetal organ trafficking, at least have the courage to own it before chanting hoax.
Media Matters has a whole article plus links claiming the interview was doctored by eliminating sections of the interview which included quotes about donating, recovering expenses, and the like. It's an interesting and probably usefully aggressive try, but still--baby body parts, livers in demand, crushing in places to preserve organs? Ghastly.
So, in your world, not only do you have to catch someone on video, but the person who releases the video can't be friends with a list of people that you've compiled?
Excellent, thank you for putting this together (and making my job today a little easier). God bless you Father Hollowell.
ReplyDeleteI'm Catholic and proud to say I love Planned Parenthood.
ReplyDeleteThey have been wonderful in helping women (especially rape victims) , helping with population control , and the only hope to help reduce the astronomical rate of orphaned children and children in the streets. You certainly aren't doing it John
There are already already 321 million in the USA and counting. We certainly don't have a shortage of "be fruitful and multiply ".
Planned parenthood will help reduce the rate of orphaned children and street children . The number of homeless children reached record highs in 2011,2012,and 2013 at about three times their number in 1983. There are an estimated two million youth in the streets...many who are forced out of their homes by their parent or parents. Imagine how much higher the numbers would be if Planned Parenthood didn't exist. Now there's something you can focus on John, help those street children rather than bashing gays and Planned Parenthood. Thank goodness our Church has priests who really do help our country rather than promote hatred. But there's always hope for you, I'll pray you see the Light instead of darkness because Lord knows you've been working with darkness for 6 years now !
Thank you for explaining the faulty but attractive logic behind the PP position - instead of caring for the poor (who will always be with us according to Jesus) we just hand out condoms (which are a false security blanket anyway) and try to prevent people from not breeding.
DeleteThe Church's stance (and thus the reason PP's founder considered her main enemy to be the Catholic Church (odd that you purport to be a fan of both as they are on opposite extremes)) is one that both actually cares for the needs of the poor, and actually is out teaching the only thing that ACTUALLY reduces unwanted pregnancies - abstinence. Handing out birth control pills and condoms, with the message that it protects a couple from pregnancy, when in actuality birth control fails at an alarming rate, only serves to drive up the number of unwanted pregnancies. How do you explain the fact that 48% of women getting abortions reported being on the pill when they conceived? Planned Parenthood isn't just based on evil principles, it is based on ineffective principles.
Imagine if abortion and contraception was illegal throughout the world. This country would be packed like sardines with people. There wouldn't be any jobs for a LOT, food would be scarce, a LOT would be homeless, and there would be soooo much suffering! Like lots more than we have now. We would literally ruin ourselves.
DeleteI notice instead of addressing the issue at hand: the ghoulish farming out of body parts, we get stock PP talking points.
DeleteSorry Anonymous, you are catholic in name only.
Delete"The country would be packed like sardines with people" .... Have you ever been to Kansas, Wyoming, Texas, Indiana, Nebraska, Alaska, South or North Dakota? The entire world's population would fit in Texas living at the same population density of New York City
DeleteOne decently sized river (Ohio, Mississippi) produces enough water for every human being to live off of.
Visit https://overpopulationisamyth.com/ for more info
Haha, apparently you didn't read my comment very well. I said IF every country banned abortion and contraception, the world would be chuck FULL of people. After all, people enjoy procreating every day, whether they are married or not, and if those two things were outlawed, we'd see a steady population growth until the Earth is elbow to elbow with humans! Ever been to China? Why do you suppose there is a one(maybe two) child limit law? Because that country is overflowing with people!. Yes, I have been to some of those other states. I don't buy the fact that 7 BILLION people could fit in Texas either. Maybe if you pack em in like sardines.....
Delete"Planned parenthood will help reduce the rate of orphaned children and street children . The number of homeless children reached record highs in 2011,2012,and 2013 at about three times their number in 1983. There are an estimated two million youth in the streets...many who are forced out of their homes by their parent or parents. Imagine how much higher the numbers would be if Planned Parenthood didn't exist."
DeleteJust in case you had any doubt that PP apologists are eugenicist duds, creeps, and villains who want to kill off the riff-raff so their gated community isn't stunk up by beggars.
"Anonymous," are you some kind of agent provacateur contra liberalism or something?
I haven't been to China, but I've heard reports of vast livable swaths of countryside that aren't utilized for living because the government forces people into cities and/or people choose to live in them. Overcrowding, in certain areas, is a problem, as it is in the US, but overcrowding is the issue, not that we don't have enough room in the world. www.overpopulationisamyth.org - check it out
DeleteFair enough that you haven't been to China but have second hand knowledge of extra space over there. Honestly, I'm not saying that this planet is over populated at the present time. But here is my question to you: Would it be a fair statement to say that if abortion and contraception were illegal world wide(which means nobody would have access to it whatsoever), that eventually; maybe not 10 years from now, nor 100 years, maybe not even in 500 hundred years, but eventually, this world would be chuck full of human beings that the world would be so crowded that we'd have to look into seeing how to live life on the moon to put the overflow population?
DeleteNot if we all fit in Texas and can drink the water from one river right now. We have tons of room.
DeleteWe're pretty smart...but you think we need to not have kids now because we might run out of room in 500 years?
You side-stepped my question which had an answer of either yes or no. First of all, I agree with you that the entire planet isn't overpopulated. However, do you think it's a possibility that it COULD BE at the present moment if abortion and contraception had been illegal for the past 500 years? The point I'm trying to make is something like this: A newly constructed Olympic sized pool is empty. You begin to fill it with water from a hose the size of a straw at low pressure and just leave it and never turn it off. For a long time there won't be much water in that pool. But over time, the pool will eventually fill up and then overflow and there will be water everywhere, thus making a huge mess. I guarantee you that's what would happen to our planet. After all, people love to fornicate. In fact, I'll bet everything I have that people are fornicating right now as I type this and as you read this! So what do you suppose would happen if we took away birth control and abortion?
DeleteMalthus reached his delusional and unscientific conclusion that we were running out of room precisely because he assumed we wouldn't get any better at figuring out ways to adapt and become more resourceful thus allowing many more people to live "in the pool" as you say. Are you going to tell me that we're able to figure out how to live on the moon and Mars but in 500 years we'll still be operating at the same level of food efficiency?
DeleteAt another site, someone said "the jury was still out" as to whether it was a real video or a hoax. That's fine, but with this person, it is not clear that he is opposed in principle to fetal organ trafficking.
ReplyDeleteTo wit: if one is ambivalent or just ducky with fetal organ trafficking, at least have the courage to own it before chanting hoax.
Media Matters has a whole article plus links claiming the interview was doctored by eliminating sections of the interview which included quotes about donating, recovering expenses, and the like. It's an interesting and probably usefully aggressive try, but still--baby body parts, livers in demand, crushing in places to preserve organs? Ghastly.
ReplyDeleteNote: This is not the Anonymous troll that appears to have taken over the comments. I remain anonymous for my own reasons.
ReplyDeleteThe creator of the video is buddy-buddy with James O'Keefe. Credibility levels are approaching zero.
So, in your world, not only do you have to catch someone on video, but the person who releases the video can't be friends with a list of people that you've compiled?
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