tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560483615460834385.post3176036705831178279..comments2024-03-22T05:53:17.342-04:00Comments on On This Rock: The Mark of the BeastFather John Hollowellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12850864104003705536noreply@blogger.comBlogger246125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560483615460834385.post-76735284625298537402015-05-17T08:35:33.593-04:002015-05-17T08:35:33.593-04:00Yep, because this is the only work I've done t...Yep, because this is the only work I've done these last few years as a priest...oh wait...we've raised over a million dollars to repair our Church...we've started a St. Vincent DePaul Society to care for the poor...an ecumenical 5k to feed hungry kids in the Summer...choirs...a university Mass at DePauw...a youth group...<br /><br />Maybe you are obsessed with thinking I'm obsessed?Father John Hollowellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12850864104003705536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560483615460834385.post-56893559469007305092015-05-14T18:14:32.286-04:002015-05-14T18:14:32.286-04:00Yes but you only spent over 80k on a film about sa...Yes but you only spent over 80k on a film about same sex marriage and apparently a second one on the way for a million bucks. Gerold is right, clearly says you're obsessedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560483615460834385.post-82486358546044773202015-05-11T23:02:55.077-04:002015-05-11T23:02:55.077-04:00Hi Scotty W
Are you Hollowell's brother? P...Hi Scotty W <br /><br />Are you Hollowell's brother? Perhaps his father, whom others on here from his home town call a bigot?? I find your defense overdone and highly suspicious.<br /><br />A bigoted family that's crazed together stays together? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560483615460834385.post-71726446516033275782014-05-24T00:21:03.116-04:002014-05-24T00:21:03.116-04:00What about the rights of the children they want to...What about the rights of the children they want to adopt and bring up in such disgusting and unnatural environment?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560483615460834385.post-37807288645093084522014-04-09T16:22:23.304-04:002014-04-09T16:22:23.304-04:00Gets me fired up every time I reread it! Keep up t...Gets me fired up every time I reread it! Keep up the great work!!Laura Hollowellnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560483615460834385.post-2240688138133697732013-10-18T13:01:58.952-04:002013-10-18T13:01:58.952-04:00When the Church is declared a hate group by the co...When the Church is declared a hate group by the courts and the government for not conducting same-sex marriages. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560483615460834385.post-65533233658288539692013-10-15T19:19:19.854-04:002013-10-15T19:19:19.854-04:00everywhere!everywhere!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560483615460834385.post-33689019119941039872013-10-15T19:17:05.061-04:002013-10-15T19:17:05.061-04:00atheism isn't a religion..atheism isn't a religion..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560483615460834385.post-31845695241737007262013-10-15T19:14:43.553-04:002013-10-15T19:14:43.553-04:00atheism isn't a religion..atheism isn't a religion..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560483615460834385.post-43080484327946508132013-10-15T19:14:11.095-04:002013-10-15T19:14:11.095-04:00atheism isn't a religionatheism isn't a religionAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560483615460834385.post-42179171570010730432013-07-18T15:39:37.032-04:002013-07-18T15:39:37.032-04:00Father Hollowell,
I recently watched a YouTube vi...Father Hollowell,<br /><br />I recently watched a YouTube video of yours where you discuss the topic of gay marriage with your class. First of all, I want to say how appreciative I am of the fact that you encourage critical thinking among your students. As a Catholic myself, I recall one of the most important lessons I ever learned being the value of questioning one's faith and how that could be used as a tool to strengthen it.<br /><br />I want to mention, though, that your opposition arguments (pro-gay) that you presented to your class were a bit simplistic - to the point of being straw men arguments. They were easily addressed by the canned responses with which you prepped your students.<br /><br />What happens when your students encounter a critical thinker who doesn't share their point of view? How will they respond when the person testing their faith references studies on monogamous gay relationships conducted after the 80s? What will your students have to say when this hypothetical arguer mentions the fact that most of the Catholic-affiliated adoption agencies you mentioned were also accepting money from the state government and so therefore were required to conform to state law concerning adoption practices and equality regarding same-sex couples?<br /><br />I don't think many of your students would satisfactorily rebut this imagined challenger if they use the tools you've supplied them.<br /><br />To put my cards fully on the table, I'm a gay Catholic. I have the utmost respect for you and for priests in general. Some of the best advice I've ever received has come from Catholic Priests, but I'm sorry to say I haven't seen a single argument from you (in this blog, or given to your class) that persuades me that same-sex marriage is indeed harmful.<br /><br />Now I consider myself a rational person (don't we all? Haha) and clearly you are as well. Even though we both have our own biases regarding this topic, we must surely be capable of having a genuine discussion on same-sex marriage that doesn't include idle musings on the "bloody" significance of the red HRC logo (especially when a quick internet search reveals the reason for the color change being simply that red "is synonymous with love").<br /><br />I honestly do look forward to any reply you might have the time to give me. I'm sure you're very busy, but any response would be greatly appreciated. I hope you have a blessed day.<br /><br />Sincerely,<br />-MatthewMatthew Chilellihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07447522442568337083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560483615460834385.post-66815190356516854782013-07-11T07:43:47.957-04:002013-07-11T07:43:47.957-04:00Thanks for your comment Matthew. I would say that...Thanks for your comment Matthew. I would say that especially as I've become a person inserted onto the front lines of this issue, I've learned a lot more, and so I respect your opinion that the arguments I took on were straw men. Would I teach the class the same way today as I did four years ago...probably not.<br /><br />In a spirit of dialogue and a continual desire to learn more I am curious as to what questions you would have preferred I take on in the class? Thanks in advance for your response and thanks for the civility in your initial comments. It is quite refreshing!Father John Hollowellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12850864104003705536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560483615460834385.post-90995447389200681152013-07-11T02:06:12.407-04:002013-07-11T02:06:12.407-04:00Father Hollowell,
I recently watched a YouTube vi...Father Hollowell,<br /><br />I recently watched a YouTube video of yours where you discuss the topic of gay marriage with your class. First of all, I want to say how appreciative I am of the fact that you encourage critical thinking among your students. As a Catholic myself, I recall one of the most important lessons I ever learned being the value of questioning one's faith and how that could be used as a tool to strengthen it.<br /><br />I want to mention, though, that your opposition arguments (pro-gay) that you presented to your class were a bit simplistic - to the point of being straw men arguments. They were easily addressed by the canned responses with which you prepped your students.<br /><br />What happens when your students encounter a critical thinker who doesn't share their point of view? How will they respond when the person testing their faith references studies on monogamous gay relationships conducted after the 80s? What will your students have to say when this hypothetical arguer mentions the fact that most of the Catholic-affiliated adoption agencies you mentioned were also accepting money from the state government and so therefore were required to conform to state law concerning adoption practices and equality regarding same-sex couples?<br /><br />I don't think many of your students would satisfactorily rebut this imagined challenger if they use the tools you've supplied them.<br /><br />To put my cards fully on the table, I'm a gay Catholic. I have the utmost respect for you and for priests in general. Some of the best advice I've ever received has come from Catholic Priests, but I'm sorry to say I haven't seen a single argument from you (in this blog, or given to your class) that persuades me that same-sex marriage is indeed harmful.<br /><br />Now I consider myself a rational person (don't we all? Haha) and clearly you are as well. Even though we both have our own biases regarding this topic, we must surely be capable of having a genuine discussion on same-sex marriage that doesn't include idle musings on the "bloody" significance of the red HRC logo (especially when a quick internet search reveals the reason for the color change being simply that red "is synonymous with love").<br /><br />I honestly do look forward to any reply you might have the time to give me. I'm sure you're very busy, but any response would be greatly appreciated. I hope you have a blessed day.<br /><br />Sincerely,<br />-MatthewMatthew Chilellihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07447522442568337083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560483615460834385.post-265184743150829552013-06-30T02:37:55.773-04:002013-06-30T02:37:55.773-04:00You would have to understand the old covenant vs. ...You would have to understand the old covenant vs. the new covenant to comprehend any answer to your post. Your post makes it obvious that you understand neither, therefore any attempt to explain would be fruitless. <br /> Nevertheless: you are correct though, if we were still under the old covenant they must be put to death. Just like adulterers. When we witness the harm done to families because of adultery, it is easy to see why the old covenant called for the death penalty as a deterrent. You should try to understand this: ""But go and learn what this means: 'I DESIRE COMPASSION, AND NOT SACRIFICE,' for I did not come to call the righteous, but sinners." Matthew 9:13 Somehow, withholding the truth does not seem very compassionate to me.<br /><a href="http://youtu.be/Dooif2-yAoI" rel="nofollow">youtu.be/Dooif2-yAoI</a><br />"How then will they call on Him in whom they have not believed? <br />How will they believe in Him whom they have not heard? <br />And how will they hear without a preacher?" Romans 10:14<br /><br />However, in YOUR case the prophecy of Isaiah is probably being fulfilled, no doubt, which says,<br /> ‘YOU WILL KEEP ON HEARING, BUT WILL NOT UNDERSTAND;<br /> YOU WILL KEEP ON SEEING, BUT WILL NOT PERCEIVE;<br /><br /> FOR THE HEART OF THIS PEOPLE HAS BECOME DULL,<br /> WITH THEIR EARS THEY SCARCELY HEAR,<br /> AND THEY HAVE CLOSED THEIR EYES,<br /> OTHERWISE THEY WOULD SEE WITH THEIR EYES,<br /> HEAR WITH THEIR EARS,<br /> AND UNDERSTAND WITH THEIR HEART AND RETURN,<br /> AND I WOULD HEAL THEM.’<br /><br />It doesn't have to be like that. The choice is yours.<br /><br />Davidhttp://warriorsforthelord.org/666/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560483615460834385.post-88512450006829059552013-06-30T02:16:04.621-04:002013-06-30T02:16:04.621-04:00Some how I don't think Nancy Pelosi, John Kerr...Some how I don't think Nancy Pelosi, John Kerry, or Joe Biden will receive the type of persecution you are referring too. Should the Church follow 1 Corinthians 5:9-13 regarding those mentioned above who claim they are good Catholics (by their own mouth)? Why are they allowed to receive communion? Why are they not excommunicated? "REMOVE THE WICKED MAN FROM AMONG YOURSELVES."<br /><br />Now is the time more than ever before for those who know and love our Lord and Savior, the man from Nazareth: Christ Jesus to heed Ephesians 6:13 "Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm."Davidhttp://warriorsforthelord.org/666/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560483615460834385.post-36824098436302853642013-06-27T18:47:18.510-04:002013-06-27T18:47:18.510-04:00How dare you guys talk to Father in that way , you...How dare you guys talk to Father in that way , you cannot talk about our spiritual learders who is guiding us the right path to God & Heaven. Its sad to say no one has respect for one another , as I see if you have no respect for the Priest or other beliefs what makes you think the world is going to get better? How do you assume if the Govement gives you all these rights what more is it going to do..? You are just seperating families, friends , mothers daughters , sisters and brothers... The world will start suffering and it will yearn for agony and pain .... it will just be a minority who will still believe in One GOD not the world:( Sad Catholics have always been fighting for their beliefs and we arent going to stop .... My Grandpa fought as a Cristero in Mexico so they can get their religious beliefs.. And if it ever comes to that I will also. I will never deny Jesus and I pray to God I will never and fall in the same sink hole.. Im only 19 and Dearest Father I pray that you pray for my whole entire family and for the lost souls and for the whole world. Please keep spreading out the truth and the love by this Priest who you have said a good example :) TatianaD1993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560483615460834385.post-47628824833725323982013-06-25T14:34:31.342-04:002013-06-25T14:34:31.342-04:00The post is directed at Catholics who are fighting...The post is directed at Catholics who are fighting for the redefinition of marriage. What is hateful in it?Father John Hollowellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12850864104003705536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560483615460834385.post-88116443147304350892013-06-25T14:30:48.091-04:002013-06-25T14:30:48.091-04:00There are certain issues that the society has to g...There are certain issues that the society has to get right or society will implode. If we get the marriage question wrong, we will implode. The Church doesn't want to see society implode. <br /><br />The founders understood that there is a Divine Law that our country's laws must be in harmony with for the sake of all the citizens. Saying that two men or two women can marry is getting one of the foundational questions wrong. <br /><br />That is not religion dictating its morals to others, that is religion telling society "if you get this wrong, it is all over."Father John Hollowellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12850864104003705536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560483615460834385.post-51354067859837782532013-06-25T12:57:40.860-04:002013-06-25T12:57:40.860-04:00I look at hurtful, biased, and hate-mongering post...I look at hurtful, biased, and hate-mongering posts like these and think: Is this what Christ would do? Would he paint such a stilted picture of God's children who happen to be gay and try to rally his other children against them? My Christ wouldn't do that... Mr. Hollowell (I can't honor the title 'Father' given your current writing), I think you need to spend some time in communion with Christ and look deeply into your heart to examine if you are exemplifying Christ's love and forgiveness. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560483615460834385.post-55807767947554539812013-06-25T12:24:15.313-04:002013-06-25T12:24:15.313-04:00Fr. Hollowell, you said "It will destroy the ...Fr. Hollowell, you said "It will destroy the religious freedom of Catholics and we will be persecuted."<br /><br />With all due respect, I think you confuse not getting to dictate your version of morality on the masses (including non-Catholic) with a lack of religious freedom. Religious freedom is precisely why no church should be allowed to codify their beliefs into law.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15485510250116888185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560483615460834385.post-41428769846387004322013-06-24T21:40:09.549-04:002013-06-24T21:40:09.549-04:00I didn't have a lot of "favorite teachers...I didn't have a lot of "favorite teachers" at Roncalli. <br /><br />I do remember Matthew 5:11-12 in my time at RHS, which says:<br /><br />"Blessed are you when they insult you and persecute you and utter every kind of evil against you falsely because of me. Rejoice and be glad, for your reward will be great in heaven. Thus they persecuted the prophets who were before you."Father John Hollowellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12850864104003705536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560483615460834385.post-87748133857037260972013-06-24T20:17:24.992-04:002013-06-24T20:17:24.992-04:00I am so terribly embarrassed that you graduated fr...I am so terribly embarrassed that you graduated from Roncalli HS...so many of your "favorite" teachers there are gay and lesbian catholics who deserve the right to love and be loved by the ones the Lord decides are right. Why much Catholics be the most "Un-Christian"? Answer...because their hypocritical, nasty clergy are the most "Un-Christian"...that's why.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560483615460834385.post-59419184198185818042013-06-24T08:18:14.892-04:002013-06-24T08:18:14.892-04:00Ah yes, the old "hate" argument. It is ...Ah yes, the old "hate" argument. It is Catholics who are under attack, and not vice versa. Read the tea leaves...a persecution of the Church is coming, which was the whole point of my post...and your comment embodies perfectly the exact mindset that I talk about in my original post. <br /><br />The people who are truly damaging people here are the enablers who tell people that sex between two men (or two women) doesn't hurt anyone involved. Father John Hollowellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12850864104003705536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560483615460834385.post-72719324418329231592013-06-24T00:20:54.434-04:002013-06-24T00:20:54.434-04:00Sad, very sad indeed. You, sir, are no man of God....Sad, very sad indeed. You, sir, are no man of God. You are an enabler of hate. People listen to you; there's power behind your words. Yet, you use this power to inflict harm. LGBTQ teens, young adults, men and women will be beaten, gay-bashed, commit suicide, and even murdered -- and they have -- by the same potent words and vitriolic statements. Some folks understand your words as being given permission to hate. By a priest no less! <br /><br />Perhaps, Father, you should start with getting your Catholic house in order -- from Brazil, Indiana to the Vatican. The Catholic Church is currently in no position to “throw stones” or to place judgment.<br /><br />J. Patrick Redmond<br />Miami, FL and Vincennes, IN<br />J. Patrick Redmondhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03395964996059067242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560483615460834385.post-73883265136146452792013-05-16T10:58:27.740-04:002013-05-16T10:58:27.740-04:00Martha,
I too realize that tone is hard to convey...Martha,<br /><br />I too realize that tone is hard to convey - a downside to this medium. Per your comments:<br /><br />1) Why is marriage between two people? Because it is always been that way? Because societies have always understood it to be so? Why 2? Every argument for "why only 2 people" is the same argument that has always been given for traditional marriage.<br /><br />2) Article on the research on children of 2 gay adoptees - <br /><br />http://www.frc.org/issuebrief/new-study-on-homosexual-parents-tops-all-previous-researchFather John Hollowellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12850864104003705536noreply@blogger.com